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March 6, 2005

The Aftermath


I wanted to respond to all of the comments for the previous post, but I figured I should wait until I could address all of them at once. Here goes:


Wow. Who would’ve thought that one simple and satirical post would’ve generated so much feedback, both positive and negative. The post was meant to be a joke, primarily, but also to bring to our collective attention that while live in an age where “knowledge” and “education” are so highly touted, certain forms of knowledge that are more vital to the well-being of a family (and by extension, Muslim society) are being neglected. No doubt, the Ummah needs intelligent, educated, and accomplished women who excel in academics, their careers, and their religion… but it also needs women who will be excellent mothers, following in the historical example of Muslim women, who were shaykahs of kalaam and the kabab. It was because they viewed both their internal and external contributions to society as important (with the greater emphasis on the internal since women are the pillars for the family unit… if they fall, families and societies fall, no matter how “great” the men are) that our societies were so successful. It is unfortunate now that the modern worldview has made it seem as if housework is semi-slavery, and Muslim women are scoffing at such roles. Instead, many are choosing to sacrifice their internal contributions for possible external contributions to society; the irony, of course, being that now, more than ever, this Ummah is in need of women to anchor our societies and set an example that boys can use to finally grow up and become men.


Bottom line: if you’re still “mad” about the post… what more can I say that hasn’t already been said?


As for the post: it is interesting perhaps to note that in the Maliki school, a wife has the right to expect for her husband to hire a domestic servant if he can afford and/or she grew up in a household that had domestic help. I guess after saying that we might witness a mass conversion of females to the Maliki school…


As for those who left positive feedback: thanks. I coulda made Xanga featured content if you had all given me the 46 eprops on the same day… and finally featured content woulda had an interesting article, instead of people telling others what they had for lunch today.


As for those who just rolled their eyes for me being me: props. you guys have me figured out.


As for the negative comments: if I may direct your attention to the tagline of my website, it clearly states: “kr156 is a bad guy”, and it’s followed by a quote from Scarface (one of the greatest movies ever) that further reinforces my being a bad guy and also explaining why people still need me… to point a finger at, since people need someone else to point fingers at, lest they be forced to introspect themselves and find monsters they never knew existed. I consider my role as an honor.


Let’s address some of the specific comments. In order to save space, I’ll just refer to the person’s xanga-name instead of pasting their specific comment:


Qidas: I myself wonder how anyone takes my khutbahs and speeches seriously. Maybe if I can continue this sort of stuff, it’ll get me out of having to ever speak again.


Anikin5: Yes, I did have finals this past week. Much respect, thanks, and reciprocated du’as to those who made du’a for me (especially whoever read Yaseen for me). I wasn’t planning on posting at all on the xanga last week… but then I was sitting in a 4-hr Clinical Pathophysiology (CPP) review and around hour #3 or so, my mind wandered and this post came to me… call it an epiphany, if you will.


afqar_alfuqaraa: the instructors ought to be aunties who are like freakin experts in each of these fields. Moreover, our moms’ generation is filled with aunties who not only are doctors and career women, but have mad skills in domestic matters as well… thus defining and exemplifying what it means to be a woman, as opposed to a chick. If you guys recall a recent post wherein I praised women (and lamented that we don’t have enough women anymore… and I clearly defined how I perceive if a female is a “chick” or a “woman”)… I still stand by the crux of that post: this deen’s survival and success needs more women and less chicks.


kwkkz: kazim always has great insights. it’s a shame that this man is still single. i will definitely listen to your input on how to streamline the classes and make them better, so please, by all means, share some of your insights. also, you’re right, men probably ought to have a school to teach them basics on domestic matters as well. I’ve always been an equal opportunity basher; if you guys recall my Theory of Wife Demotion Post, I did post two rebuttal posts (written by sisters in response to the TWD). anyone who wants to write a rebuttal to this (ie, a post about a school for men), be my guest and email it to me (kr156@comcast.net). if it is funny and intelligent, I will post it.


monicathedesigninator: “you know why it happens”… hahaha, it happens because I’m bored and I like to see how people will respond to such stuff. Aristotle said that “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” I guess I’m just always amazed to see how people will entertain my thoughts, even if they don’t accept it.


hishashish, kareem99, lt786, fadi33, poetichermit85, cubwrig, javaadali, bhaijan: ameen, thank you, and i love you guys. especially you alti, i’ma do a post on you in the next few days, inshallah, as episode 3 of the interesting people in the life of kr. hisham, you got it right when you wrote: “p.s I really don’t think that KR or anyone could care less that any of your impressions of him might have changed after reading this xanga”. indeed my son, indeed.


falooda, ashabullail, habeejan: Mashallah, Allah has guided you to a state of enlightenment. Be thankful to God, for guidance is indeed a precious gift given only to a select few =). please share your wisdom with wintersamar and islamichick.


wintersamar, islamichick: please see above. also, i think it’s ironic that islamichick got upset, while her xanga-name has the word chick in it. she also wrote “Ever since I’ve been exposed to your xanga, my opinion of you has been changing drastically”… that’s awesome; again, read the tagline: kr156 is a bad guy.


simsimmah: your comments were the 2nd best comments after kazim’s. you’ve exposed me by asking how I know so much about the details of such domestic matters. I guess I just realize its pretty sad when I got skills in this department and there’s chicks out there that don’t. It raises the question (about such people) in my mind: What have you been doing with your life besides spending your dad’s credit card at the mall?


curlykhan34: no, i don’t have great khutbahs. im that bad guy. see tagline above.


finally, to ihussaini: shut up imran. no one cares what you think. not now, not ever =).


and if you guys are still mad, there’s always Boondocks to bring it back to a lighter perspective. This is the new theme for the NFL:



Final addendum to post: the movie below has to be the best movie I’ve seen since the Butterfly Effect last year.

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20 Comments
  1. That looks like a good movie, N-word! Hey, stop writing posts to justify your prior posts. As Sonny from “A Bronx Tale” says, “nobody cares.”

  2. what about me!?

  3. Anonymous permalink

    haha…my nigga…

  4. Saw is an awesome movie. the twists are unbelievable. and its not a chick flick either, good movie to watch with all the nigga’s

  5. Anonymous permalink

    LoL My nigga… I woulda advised you not to respond to any of the stupid comments that everyone posted on your xanga. But hey that would not be in the spirit of KR.
    Next time I post up a ‘controversial’ post, i’m just going to ignore everyone’s whining. Its better that way.
    Thanks for the laughs… again I gotta tip my hat off to KR 156 and call him my daddy.

  6. Assalaam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, I have to apologize to sister. Earlier this week I put up a comment on the last post you wrote (the one about your school of domestication) about how you had me all angry and I saw it as degrading towards women. I posted that comment using my sisters xanga. She had no knowledge of it. So now I have my own xanga… and yeah, I’m sorry again. Assalaam Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

  7. Anonymous permalink

    kr school of domestication
    i wish they had one here.. i would enroll fo shizzle (inshaAllah)

  8. Anonymous permalink

    i recently came across one of your comments on Believer2’s xanga which said: “one problem with the prevalence of translations is that everyone and their mother has access to books… of course, this is a good thing, but one problem that results from this is that people read texts on their own thinking they have the tools to fully understand the outer and inner meanings of the text. this is like some pre-med picking up a textbook on surgery and assuming he knows all there is to know about surgery, without studying it from a teacher or actually seeing or practicing it.” and i was wondering whether you were also talking about the Quran here (or are you only talking about other texts?). bc i think that the Quran has been made easy for everyone to understand without a teacher, even though people will not grasp all of it after their first read. i think that trying to understand the Quran and trying to understand surgery are very different things because the Quran is not a science. we still have a lot to learn about science and science books are complicated and confusing bc they are written by people who still do not know everything about the subject. the Quran on the other hand, is not complicated and confusing bc, and has been made easy for us to understand bc it was written by Allah (SWT) who knows everything about what he is writing about. also having to have a teacher explain the Quran to us sounds sort of like having a preist. btw i like your xanga. there’s always something interesting to read.

  9. Anonymous permalink

    because making something easy is difficult and making something difficult is easy.

  10. I think one can certainly read the Qur’an on their own and understand the basic outward meaning of it. this understanding is more than enough to guide someone and keep them on the straight path. this sort of understanding i believe is required from every Muslim and we must all eagerly and actively seek that level of understanding.
    however, there are deeper and inner levels of understanding, with most of the classical texts, and even with the Qur’an. there’s certain flavors of meanings in ayahs that only those with sophisticated tools and knowledge can understand… these meanings and lessons are not vital to the well-being of a believer: they only enhance one’s knowledge and certainty. it is to achieve this level of understanding that i think it’s essential for Muslims to study with traditional scholars, lest they end up confusing themselves and others…. see muslimwakeup.com for examples of these sorts of people who’ve taken it upon themselves to “re-analyze” texts and look at what kind of idiocy they’ve produced.

  11. Salaam… am I the only one who thinks that you have far too much free time on your hands and that this is the source of all the trouble you bring to yourself? I mean, yeah, the girl is high maintenance, raised with a silver spoon up her butt, and needs someone to slap her back down to earth – that’s obvious. But a school of domestication? Akkhhh, no further comment.

  12. Anonymous permalink

    i agree with your first part completely. but when you say sophisticated tools and knowledge, what do you mean? what constitutes a traditional scholar (how much study and what kind)? how do we know this person has enough knowledge? it seems like too much reliance on the scholar (i’m talking about understanding the Quran only here). aren’t we supposed to only seek guidance from Allah (SWT)? also just because some loonies come up with garbage after re-analyzing doesn’t mean we all have to now go to the scholars. i am talking about only the Quran though.
    here’s a quote from the Quran that is relevant: He it is who bestowed upon thee from on high this divine writ, containing messages that are clear in and by themselves – and these are the essense of the divine writ – as well as others that are allegorical. Now those whose hearts are given to swerving from the truth go after that part of the divine writ which has been expressed in allegory, seeking out [what is bound to create] confusion, and seeking [to arrive at] its final meaning [in an arbitrary manner]; but none save God knows its final meaning. Hence, those who are deeply rooted in knowledge say: ‘We believe in it; the whole [of the divine writ] is from our Sustainer – albeit none takes this to heart save those who are endowed with insight. (3:7)
    doesn’t it seem like people these days are getting too involved in things that we don’t need to be involved in, and unneccessary things that won’t help us become better muslims. for example, studying the signs of the Day of Judgement. doing this is not going to help us become better muslims, and it sorta wastes time bc the Quran says, “They will ask thee [O Prophet] about the Last Hour: ‘When will it come to pass?’ Say: ‘Verily, knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone. None but He will reveal it in its time. Heavily will it weigh on the heavens and the earth; [and] it will not fall upon you otherwise than of a sudden.” (7:187). And then it says, the people will ask the Prophet again and again, “when will it happen?” And it tells the Prophet (S) to just say “knowlegde thereof rests w/ my Sustainer.”
    i dunno if that made any sense, but it seems like the first kind of understanding you talk about is all we really need. bc that other “deeper” understanding seems to be just this kind of stuff. sorry if i’m bugging you.

  13. arabeeya… if you want to enroll in my school, just ask nicely =).

  14. that last comment.. owned. 

  15. in order to study deeper meanings of the Qur’an and classical texts, one has to be well versed in various branches of knowledge such as Arabic, grammar, syntax, tafseer, hadith, sirah, etc.  how do we know if a person has such knowledge? clearly, if they’ve spent significant time studying these branches, the signs of their studies will be self evident. in other words, im saying that people like asma gul hasan and others who are pretending to speak for muslims and believe they can re-interpret the Qur’an and say that “oh, hijab never meant to cover the head, just meant to cover the bosom” are complete buffoons.
    the reliance on the scholar has to be there for important matters that require one who has mastered those branches of knowledge to apply his or her expertise. just as when a person is sick, one consults a doctor; if one has a bunch of traffic tickets, one consults a lawyer–for such important matters, consulting a scholar is crucial for the specifics of how to act. most of the everyday, however, do not require the participation of a scholar. when one seeks guidance from a scholar about issues that one may not be skilled enough to understand, one is consulting someone who has been given guidance himself… from Allah and from the chain of scholars that connect him/her back to the Prophet. the isnad (chain of narration) is the greatest asset of this religion, and is something that these modern liberals that are interpreting the Qur’an on their own and spewing idiotic things (like saying women can give khutbahs and lead men in prayer) don’t have. the isnad connects a scholar back to the Prophet, and is the greatest proof of his/her authenticity.
    studying about the signs of the day of judgement isnt useless knowledge, for knowing about the signs helps to give a person reaffirmation in one’s faith. however, this modern obsession of trying to correlate all such signs with modern political events is a sickness that needs to be healed since there are more important things to worry about. it’s amazing that you’ll find muslims who don’t know the basics of the deen and yet they want to engage in eschatological discussions about the coming of the Mahdi and such. to these people, i would ask them to abandon their concern about WHEN the mahdi and Isa are coming… and instead ask themselves if they are prepared for such a coming.
    bottom line is that you are right: the basics of this religion, which are more than enough to lead a person into the highest rank of paradise, are clear and easily accessible to anyone. knowledge about purification, times of prayer, prayer, zakat, fasting, etc…. the so-called “Fard `ayn” is very straightforward and can be mastered (and must be learnt) by every Muslim. it is with the perfection of these matters that i believe we should be concerned with. trying to correlate the iraq war with a hadith or believing that the word jalaba only meant to cover the bosom… speaking about such matters just cause you read a translation of scholar X or went to a deen intensive or wahtever… these such people who speak about such matters without any isnad… that is the pinnacle of foolishness.

  16. thanks for clarifying.  does the school enroll arabs as well?  what if arab girls dont want to learn how to make biryani?
    psychology of the home will need to be taught differently to arab ‘girls’ vs. desi (although i hope you accomodate a variety of ethnicities and backgrounds)
    arab women control their homes, and their husbands know it– they speak their voice loud and clear.  desi women control their homes and their husbands dont know what hit them– they work around speaking and quietly lift the puppet masters ropes

  17. ya arabeeyah, looks like u need to join, maybe once u’ve ‘domesticated’ ull take that degrading pic off ur avatar and put some clothes on ur next character
    excuse me while i soap out my eyes

  18. Since I do read your xanga occasionally, I have decided to actually leave a comment this time. I think that your school of domestication post was incredibly funny, even though I might not fully agree with it. However, I don’t think you should’ve justified yourself in your last post. Great comedic moments are usually controversial and shouldn’t be further explained. For example, when Triumph the comic dog went to Quebec and told the Quebecians “you’re French and Canadian, yes? So you’re obnoxious and dull.” That segment that appeared on Conan O Brien in Feb 2004 had the crudest comments about Quebec and its people. Eventhough it was really vulgar, I laughed my ass off. But, when Conan apologized for that segment, it wasn’t comedic history any more. I think what you had with the domestication school was really original, and you shouldn’t have further explained yourself. (Illini No. 1) And yes, I did just compare you to a puppet dog with an accent.

  19. Anonymous permalink

    why the hate kr??? huh? why the hate?

  20. Aalaam AlaikumI’ve been wrongly accused and I’m getting too much heat for it. For the record, I never posted anything on your xanga. I believe it was younger sister who accidentally posted a comment from my username (I guess I was already signed in…) Anyway, she vaguely apologized but I guess no one understood what she was saying. Just wanted to clear up some misconceptions. Asalaam Alaikum.

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